Mister Hutto: You have your own promotion, American Pro Wrestling. How do you manage to keep it afloat all these years?
Chief Jay Eagle: Loyalty from my talent, fans, and family. I try to listen to the paying customers and give them the best I can with a low budget. Keep it clean and old school. I come to realize that the fans in this area need their wrestling fix about once a week. But not only the fans, the talent needs it also. APW is somewhere where once a week we can all get together and do the wrestling thing. Running weekly shows the fans can keep up with the storylines. The wrestlers have somewhere they can go and showcase their talent once a week. When a town is run once a month it’s hard to build a fan base and I have learned it doesn’t have to be all wrestling, but just keep them entertained for a couple hours.
MH: Any advice for someone who is starting a new promotion?
CJE: Advice is stay away from hardcore as the old school wrestling works best in the south. Listen to your talent and treat them like you want to be treated, but never lose sight of who is in control. Listen to the real veterans and stay away from queers and cowards. The queers because they are in the business for the wrong reasons, and the cowards because if they can’t stand up for themselves, they don’t deserve to be portrayed as a warrior or hero.
MH: I’m not one to open old wounds but I’m sure people on the Regal Board would like to hear your side of things. Earlier this year it was said that you made a complaint to the SCAC that Thomas Simpson was running shows at Brodie Chases’ building without a license. Next, Simpson emailed the SCAC saying that he thought you were using unlicensed talent. Any thoughts you have on this past situation are appreciated.
CJE: You got that backwards. The SCAC showed up at my show with an email from Simpson that I had let Shane Steele and Alex Stone work without a license. I told them I did let them work without a license and told them why. Alex and Shane worked for Simpson and Simpson had pulled Steele’s trunks down in the ring in some town. They wanted to get away from that queer stuff but Simpson had told them if they didn’t work for him they couldn’t work anywhere. I told them they were welcome at APW. At that point LLR said they didn’t know Simpson ran shows and wanted to know where. The boys were happy to fill them in on anything they needed to know. As I said before, I may not rat anyone out but I sure as hell wasn’t going to cover for him. I was fined $250 for letting them work, but the $250 also covered both of them getting legal, so it was the best $250 I had spent in a long time. They both are currently Champions in APW. Steele has a following of about ten teenage girls that show up every week to see him wrestle. And he is the most talented Cruiserweight that has ever came through APW. I trained Steele years ago and he said he wanted to come back to APW, but thought I was mad because he left with no explanation. Alex is a natural athlete and will probably be our next Heavyweight Champion. I could go on but I will let a dead horse lie.
JH: What are your thoughts on the current state of the wrestling business?
CJE: Wrestling today is completely different than the days when I got into the business. The internet has helped expose the business. The kayfabe is gone. The fans need to believe that this is a battle contest and not guys just flying around. There was a respect that is not there anymore. I would like to see the territories come back, but I don’t think that will happen as long as there is WWE. TNA is good because it gives the fans a choice. I believe the business will go full circle and return to the days when it was believable, but probably not in my lifetime.
MH: Earlier I interviewed a guy by the name of The Grappler, he has numerous views on the wrestling business. When I asked him about you he replied, “Grappler says question 5 should have been 1. Hutto pathetic believes the Grappler. Hutto use mark term Grappler laughs at this. Grappler piss on Eagle for no listen to the Grappler. Grappler say push talent good that is, Eagle push druggies and roof employees. Eagle say business hurt but blonde rat drive new nice car. Eagle no pay young grapplers give nothing to them does Eagle hears the Grappler. Grappler still owed 22 dollar by injun. Eagle smarter of dumb promoters. Head game over young grapplers push young grapplers does he build to job to self Eagle stay top banana. Grappler knows things fans bored of old brown peel not fruit now taste bad. Grappler reveals things fan cheer for injun not pop it pity.”
CJE: My response? Sounds like good psychology to me. And the $22? His mom wasn’t worth it!
You have ran shows for quite awhile now so I figure you have gotten to know the SC Athletic Commission well. Just to see if your opinion is the same as mine. What are your thoughts on the SCAC?
CJE: I did learn one thing and that is you can’t bump heads with them because they can be a real pain in the ass. Most of them are retired from law enforcement. Second, be polite and tell them what they want to hear as they are just doing their job. The part they have drilled into me is if someone is injured or has a heart attack and I am not legal I am at fault. But, if I am legal I have done my best to make sure my talent are safe. The fees to run a show suck, but I think the physical’s are a good thing. Years ago there was a promoter in every town so they have cut down on my competition. Yeah it is crap but bringing wrestling to my area is worth it.
MH: Go over the main APW roster for me. Tell me a little about the top guys and the up and comers.
CJE: Alex Stone, this kid has got what it takes to be the top guy anywhere.
Morbid, a great baby face, one of the best trainers to come through APW, has a following of fans.
Phil Shatter, a gifted athlete, that is a plus, baby or heel with a wrestler’s body.
Truitt Fields, another gifted wrestler that keeps the fans happy, a true baby face.
Nick Fury, I’d put him up against and Cruiserweight and 90% of the Heavyweights. Got a closet full of demons but I believe he’s turned a corner.
Beach Blondes, Shane Austin and Micky Richards, got to have the vets, good in the ring and lots of help in the back.
Team Ego, it’s good to have talent that knows what’s going on, good baby or heel and willing to do whatever it takes.
Dookie 2 Times, got a bald head and he’s there almost every week.
AJ Frost, good worker and if I want to turn someone heel, turning on his is the quickest way to get heat in APW, the fans choice.
Shane Steele, the best dropkick in the Indies, the best high flyer in this area, teeny boppers heart throb.
Romeo, also a good heel or baby, loyal worker that is also willing to do what it takes to have a great match.
Bobby Diamond, old school heel that understands what a heel should be, I think the vets are very important to a show.
Boomer Payne, good psychology, good worker, when I need a night off or a main eventer I call 1-800-Boomer Payne, can make me look like I know what I’m doing.
Shea McGrady, if he had as much ass as talent he would weigh 300 pounds.
XXL Honest Doug, he does have as much ass as talent and he weighs 300 pounds, relates good to the fans, another old school dawg.
Bill White, my hero, 104 but gets around like he’s 20, can still stretch the best of them.
Big Jimmy Kindred, 400 pounds of man that can move like a Cruiserweight.
Top journeymen that don’t work every week but are very much a part of APW: Rev. Slim Victory, Johnny Dollar, DL Kool, Zack Salvation, Rowdy James, Brody Chase, Johnny Eagle and many more.
Up and comers are: Blazing Ike, Christopher Irons, Jake Jeckel, Khoas, Heath Havoc, K-9, Blackheart, Squeaky, Iceman, and last but not least Evon Force.
MH: Is Ostgard really Everybody’s Favorite Wrestler?
CJE: He’s not even Ostgard’s favorite wrestler, I am! But he is a pretty good “Grappler” and he is a legend in his own mind. I think all promoter’s should book him on his “Let Me Stink Up Your Show Tour” I did.
MH: Care to share a couple Wahoo stories for the readers?
CJE: Wahoo enjoyed picking on my two sons. We were at Wahoo’s house one Saturday before a show somewhere. Wahoo pushed my son Dustin in the swimming pool. As he climbed out Wahoo was laughing and asked him what he was going to do as he wasn’t big enough to throw him in the pool. Dustin turned his cooler of beer over in the pool. Wahoo didn’t say anything, he just dove in the pool with all his clothes on and retrieved his beer. He looked at me and said, “I guess size isn’t’ everything.”
Another time in a locker room Wahoo tripped Dustin who was about six at the time when he came through the door. Dustin tried to hit him but Wahoo kept tripping him and pushing him away. Later we had our headdresses on, our music was playing to go to the ring when Dustin hit Wahoo in the nuts while he was talking and not paying attention. Wahoo cussed all the way to the ring and told me not to tag him in. So I slapped his hand when he wasn’t looking. I could her him cussing as he climbed into the ring.
MH: Name/Word Association time
peace pipe: makes enemies friends
Ric Flair: the man in his prime
queers and cowards: no business in wrestling
this interview: ER couldn’t handle it
wrestling: Through wrestling I have made alot of friends that otherwise I wouldn’t have. The talent that didn’t live the old days will never know what they missed.
MH: Chief thanks for taking the time out to take part in this interview. Any closing words for the readers out there?
CJE: Good job Jason, Chief out!